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 ** Consensus-like decisionmaking: Rather than majoritarian votes, refine and adjust decisions until they meet the needs of all present members.
 ** Decisions made collectively as an instance as well as within smaller working groups that are given a defined scope within which they can exercise discretion, but all members have means of making proposals with and through working groups and the whole organization.
+*** Is there's a controversial decision made by small group, that can be brought up by larger group.
+**More people, means more labor to help support the governance
 * Board-like Governance
 ** Members have some means of submitting requests/complaints, but all decisions ultimately rest with the "board." Board can call votes and typically majority wins.
 ** Republic-ish decisionmaking: Members can elect people to the board who then make the decisions.
 ** Board, committee members, and general members have distinct roles, and their having those roles is what allows them to make decisions.
+** This would involve:
+*** External funding stream / paid mods
 Connection with Neuromatch the organization
 How do we maintain alignment with the mission of NM?
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+</blockquote>Notes/Discussion:
+* We could be a test case for Cooperative Gov
+* '''Jordan:''' NM is supportive of community driven governance structure -- the legal liability is owned by NM at the end of the day. The governing body could not go against NM as a nonprofit.
+** Our big burden -- moderation; we also have the issue of too many people wanting to join -- it could be true that the obligation is small (we ask folks to report bad content, engage respectfully)
+** Concern about bad actors causing harm
+* '''Nick:''' Like self managed structures, NM has been talking about implementing Holeacracy, there's a lot more self-ownership. This can sometimes create diffusion of responsibility, Holeacracy are given individual responsibilities and those folks are democratically elected.
+* '''Brad:''' Hearing from Jordan -- there could be different levels. Some folks are responsible for moding and others not (yes, Jordan agrees).
+** What are the specific things that could be down to ensure protection/alignment of NM
+*** One option is separation from NM - there could be some technical challenges
+* '''Nick:''' How do we maintain alignment -- in Holeacracy provides connection to larger group. Even if Mastadon grows, there would be a person that sits in both NM and Mastadon and they would make sure Mastadon is aligned
+* '''Jonny:''' Working groups help distribute labor, if someone felt that a group wasn't doing their job there is an internal review process. One of the working groups could be a NM liaison team. Their responsibility would be ensuring alignment to NM.
+** One of the main issues w/ connection, having this be a separate entity w/ NM as a fiscal sponsor could diffuse legal liability (LLC) --- but also we would need to talk w/ some lawyers about passage of funds [#liability #finances]. Could we accept fundraising that then goes to Mastadon group.
+** '''Brad:''' Not just legal, but other ways this could come back to us. If NM is on the name, it will come back to NM.
+** '''Nick:''' Think that these aren't huge risks, but to be seen. ----- something important to think about, lobbying laws w/ 501c3s - would be need to make sure mods aren't posting things? #legal
+*** '''Manisha:''' 501c3's can do a limited amount of lobbying. In a social media instance - would this be mitigated.
+**** '''Nick:''' w/ shared mods this could still be an issue
+* '''Jordan:''' ensure that we keep it NOT pay to play environment -- someone could be a part of a working group/voting member but they don't gain access by proving money. (Topic can be deferred)
+'''Agreements:'''
+* People are interested in open collective and distributed governance w/ smaller governance group that creates connection w/ NM
+'''To be followed up on:'''
+* Legality on 501c3 and lobbying/politics -- does this matter?
+** '''Jonny''' to check to w/ legal working group
 === Moderation ===